Comments on: Ritual http://www.transmissioning.org an emerging liturgical community in NYC Fri, 06 Jan 2012 00:55:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: R.L. http://www.transmissioning.org/ritual-guide/comment-page-1/#comment-33323 R.L. Tue, 14 Dec 2010 21:58:52 +0000 http://www.transmissioning.org/?page_id=48#comment-33323 We didn't mean to be harsh we were just worked up in our search of churches and it was late. We worded some things wrong and we just wanted to have more clarification on doctrinal beliefs of your community? We didn’t mean to be harsh we were just worked up in our search of churches and it was late. We worded some things wrong and we just wanted to have more clarification on doctrinal beliefs of your community?

]]> By: R.L. http://www.transmissioning.org/ritual-guide/comment-page-1/#comment-33321 R.L. Tue, 14 Dec 2010 21:56:06 +0000 http://www.transmissioning.org/?page_id=48#comment-33321 Thank you for clearifying it we are doing a project on the emerging church and were wondering all of these things because by reading through your ritual points it isn't clear to us what your doctrine is and what you really believe about the sinful nature of man, and we were suggesting that this would be a good thing to add into your web page... Thank you for clearifying it we are doing a project on the emerging church and were wondering all of these things because by reading through your ritual points it isn’t clear to us what your doctrine is and what you really believe about the sinful nature of man, and we were suggesting that this would be a good thing to add into your web page…

]]> By: Isaac http://www.transmissioning.org/ritual-guide/comment-page-1/#comment-33296 Isaac Tue, 14 Dec 2010 18:10:20 +0000 http://www.transmissioning.org/?page_id=48#comment-33296 Hey, RL~ I was more referring to the Bible being used as a symbolic object during worship, the way some churches place a large bible on the altar, or process with the Bible into the middle of the church for the gospel reading, which is common in Episcopal and Catholic traditions. I didn't meant to suggest that the text of the Bible is itself purely symbolic, or that it isn't worth in-depth study. To the contrary, we have a number of biblical scholars in Transmission, and we do Bible Study on a fairly regular basis! That said, I get that the language is problematic, so I'm going to edit point #4 appropriately. Thanks for the feedback! Hey, RL~

I was more referring to the Bible being used as a symbolic object during worship, the way some churches place a large bible on the altar, or process with the Bible into the middle of the church for the gospel reading, which is common in Episcopal and Catholic traditions.

I didn’t meant to suggest that the text of the Bible is itself purely symbolic, or that it isn’t worth in-depth study. To the contrary, we have a number of biblical scholars in Transmission, and we do Bible Study on a fairly regular basis!

That said, I get that the language is problematic, so I’m going to edit point #4 appropriately. Thanks for the feedback!

]]> By: R.L. http://www.transmissioning.org/ritual-guide/comment-page-1/#comment-33261 R.L. Tue, 14 Dec 2010 08:37:35 +0000 http://www.transmissioning.org/?page_id=48#comment-33261 Where is God in all of this? What do you base your doctrine off of? What is your doctrine? Why do you put so much emphasis on man when man is born sinful and in need of a Saviour? Do you relize that you rejected the Bible in point #4 by saying that since the Bible requires explanation that it is essentially useless? Maybe you should consider reading the Bible and what the Gospel really is, not what your community makes it up to be! "Scripture is God-breathed (given by His inspiration) and profitable for instruction, for reproof and conviction of sin, for correction of error and discipline in obedience, [and] for training in righteousness (in holy living, in conformity to God's will in thought, purpose, and action)." 2 Timothy 3: 16 Where is God in all of this?

What do you base your doctrine off of?

What is your doctrine?

Why do you put so much emphasis on man when
man is born sinful and in need of a Saviour?

Do you relize that you rejected the Bible in point #4 by saying that since the Bible requires explanation that it is essentially useless?

Maybe you should consider reading the Bible and what the Gospel really is, not what your community makes it up to be!

“Scripture is God-breathed (given by His inspiration) and profitable for instruction, for reproof and conviction of sin, for correction of error and discipline in obedience, [and] for training in righteousness (in holy living, in conformity to God’s will in thought, purpose, and action).” 2 Timothy 3: 16

]]> By: nedir http://www.transmissioning.org/ritual-guide/comment-page-1/#comment-32067 nedir Thu, 02 Dec 2010 22:31:13 +0000 http://www.transmissioning.org/?page_id=48#comment-32067 Hi friend did you had old sites ? I deal letter build up for my friend ... .. Hi friend did you had old sites ? I deal letter build up for my friend … ..

]]> By: Transmission » Blog Archive » Sunday Rituals http://www.transmissioning.org/ritual-guide/comment-page-1/#comment-10731 Transmission » Blog Archive » Sunday Rituals Sat, 13 Mar 2010 16:12:30 +0000 http://www.transmissioning.org/?page_id=48#comment-10731 [...] Ritual [...] [...] Ritual [...]

]]> By: Isaac http://www.transmissioning.org/ritual-guide/comment-page-1/#comment-4696 Isaac Sun, 26 Oct 2008 03:01:18 +0000 http://www.transmissioning.org/?page_id=48#comment-4696 I had the exact same experience, Richard. The first time I entered an Episcopal Church, I was handed a) a bulletin, b) a hymnal, c) a book of common prayer, and d) a cardboard cutout with the eucharistic liturgy printed on it. Needless to say, I experienced the octopus effect! I love high liturgy, but it needs to be done gracefully and with intentionality or else it feels like following a very complicated recipe... I had the exact same experience, Richard. The first time I entered an Episcopal Church, I was handed a) a bulletin, b) a hymnal, c) a book of common prayer, and d) a cardboard cutout with the eucharistic liturgy printed on it. Needless to say, I experienced the octopus effect!
I love high liturgy, but it needs to be done gracefully and with intentionality or else it feels like following a very complicated recipe…

]]> By: Richard Wright http://www.transmissioning.org/ritual-guide/comment-page-1/#comment-4694 Richard Wright Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:09:46 +0000 http://www.transmissioning.org/?page_id=48#comment-4694 In my Episcopal Church, one often feels like an octopus, trying to follow the ritual order in the Book of Common Prayer; trying to find the right page in the hymnal and trying to search in the Sunday bulletin for some guidance about the ritual order.... all at the same time. Visitors are often "put off" because they don't understand, nor can they keep up with the intricacies of the ritual, much less juggling books and paper around. It took me a good year to understand what the hell was going on and to feel comfortable with the Episcopal "way." After five years I feel comfortable in dispensing with a lot of the paper, because I've committed much of it to memory. What keeps me coming to church is the "communitas" and my commitment to the people. Ritual should be some of the "glue" that helps keep us together as a worshiping community . However, I feel that it is often a barrier. We need a radical reexamination of the way we "do business" in our ritual life in the church. We're stuck in a rut and we're fearful of trying something different. I applaud your courage to shift position and look beyond the horizon of "doing business as usual." There's more of the mystery of God to discover than what tradition has taught. In my Episcopal Church, one often feels like an octopus, trying to follow the ritual order in the Book of Common Prayer; trying to find the right page in the hymnal and trying to search in the Sunday bulletin for some guidance about the ritual order…. all at the same time.
Visitors are often “put off” because they don’t understand, nor can they keep up with the intricacies of the ritual, much less juggling books and paper around.
It took me a good year to understand what the hell was going on and to feel comfortable with the Episcopal “way.” After five years I feel comfortable in dispensing with a lot of the paper, because I’ve committed much of it to memory.
What keeps me coming to church is the “communitas” and my commitment to the people. Ritual should be some of the “glue” that helps keep us together as a worshiping community . However, I feel that it is often a barrier. We need a radical reexamination of the way we “do business” in our ritual life in the church. We’re stuck in a rut and we’re fearful of trying something different.
I applaud your courage to shift position and look beyond the horizon of “doing business as usual.” There’s more of the mystery of God to discover than what tradition has taught.

]]> By: Mike Morrell http://www.transmissioning.org/ritual-guide/comment-page-1/#comment-660 Mike Morrell Mon, 19 Feb 2007 15:57:45 +0000 http://www.transmissioning.org/?page_id=48#comment-660 Wow, this is great! I'm going to add this particular section to my <a href="http://zoecarnate.com/#altwor" rel="nofollow">alt.worship</a> section! Wow, this is great! I’m going to add this particular section to my alt.worship section!

]]> By: Mary Winkelpleck http://www.transmissioning.org/ritual-guide/comment-page-1/#comment-53 Mary Winkelpleck Wed, 25 Oct 2006 18:54:59 +0000 http://www.transmissioning.org/?page_id=48#comment-53 Very nicely done! Very nicely done!

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