Comments on: Blind Voyager on Happiness & Healing http://www.transmissioning.org/2007/04/10/blind-voyager-on-happiness-healing/ an emerging liturgical community in NYC Fri, 06 Jan 2012 00:55:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Daniel http://www.transmissioning.org/2007/04/10/blind-voyager-on-happiness-healing/comment-page-1/#comment-5216 Daniel Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:11:42 +0000 http://www.transmissioning.org/?p=156#comment-5216 Our attitudes control our lives. Attitudes are a secret power working twenty-four hours a day, for good or bad. It is of paramount importance that we know how to harness and control this great force. Our attitudes control our lives. Attitudes are a secret power working twenty-four hours a day, for good or bad. It is of paramount importance that we know how to harness and control this great force.

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]]> By: isaac http://www.transmissioning.org/2007/04/10/blind-voyager-on-happiness-healing/comment-page-1/#comment-4737 isaac Tue, 06 Jan 2009 17:56:29 +0000 http://www.transmissioning.org/?p=156#comment-4737 These are really good points, and it puts me in the mind of Dietrich Bonhoeffer who denounced the practice of putting God in the margins of scientific knowledge. The reason most reported miracles are curings is because science still has no explanation for sudden remission of cancer, etc. But putting God on the margins of scientific knowledge means that as science progresses, God is forced to retreat. If we instead put God in the center of our knowledge, then the conflict disappears. These are really good points, and it puts me in the mind of Dietrich Bonhoeffer who denounced the practice of putting God in the margins of scientific knowledge. The reason most reported miracles are curings is because science still has no explanation for sudden remission of cancer, etc.

But putting God on the margins of scientific knowledge means that as science progresses, God is forced to retreat. If we instead put God in the center of our knowledge, then the conflict disappears.

]]> By: Avy http://www.transmissioning.org/2007/04/10/blind-voyager-on-happiness-healing/comment-page-1/#comment-4733 Avy Fri, 02 Jan 2009 01:59:43 +0000 http://www.transmissioning.org/?p=156#comment-4733 Spent part of my time yesterday talking to Dr Cherian Koshy, an old friend, who looks after Palliative Care at the Regional Cancer Centre, Trivandrum, Kerala. He was commenting on how many Christians confuse "healing" with "curing" and how they expect miracles. He cited the case of watching a program on a Christian TV channel where someone had requested prayer that his/her father who lay in a mortuary should be raised from the dead. He felt it was unreasonable that one should expect such a miracle to take place. Of course, my response was that such expectations would always be there because Jesus had performed such miracles and so did Peter and Paul. Further, a Christianity without the possibility of such miracles taking place by faith might become rather boring! In any case, we came to two conclusions from our discussions: 1. Do not forbid people from seeking and expecting miracles from Jesus who lives forever and is able to perform supernatural miracles but tell them that they ought not to be disappointed if He does not always perform a miracle when you demand it. In this context, I am reminded of some lyrics from Herod's Song in JC Superstar: So, you are the Christ, you're the great Jesus Christ. Prove to me that you're divine; change my water into wine. That's all you need do, then I'll know it's all true. Come on, King of the Jews. What is important in this case is to be able to help and support people who expected miracles but nothing happened. Here it becomes part of "mission" to be able to help those who become disappointed and depressed and lose hope in Jesus when a miracle doesn't happen and to enable them to see God's bigger plan of salvation for them. 2. Dr Koshy then mentioned the difference between "healing" and "curing". Many people expect miracles of curing but what God wants to do is the miracle of "healing". What this means is that, one can be "healed" within through close contact with God's love and goodness and comfort in the Holy Spirit even when one finds oneself hamstrung by a disease or experience that makes one long for a perfect and permanent "cure". Jesus is more often "healer" than one who "cures" diseases. Spent part of my time yesterday talking to Dr Cherian Koshy, an old friend, who looks after Palliative Care at the Regional Cancer Centre, Trivandrum, Kerala. He was commenting on how many Christians confuse “healing” with “curing” and how they expect miracles. He cited the case of watching a program on a Christian TV channel where someone had requested prayer that his/her father who lay in a mortuary should be raised from the dead. He felt it was unreasonable that one should expect such a miracle to take place.
Of course, my response was that such expectations would always be there because Jesus had performed such miracles and so did Peter and Paul. Further, a Christianity without the possibility of such miracles taking place by faith might become rather boring!
In any case, we came to two conclusions from our discussions:
1. Do not forbid people from seeking and expecting miracles from Jesus who lives forever and is able to perform supernatural miracles but tell them that they ought not to be disappointed if He does not always perform a miracle when you demand it.
In this context, I am reminded of some lyrics from Herod’s Song in JC Superstar:
So, you are the Christ, you’re the great Jesus Christ.
Prove to me that you’re divine; change my water into wine.
That’s all you need do, then I’ll know it’s all true.
Come on, King of the Jews.
What is important in this case is to be able to help and support people who expected miracles but nothing happened. Here it becomes part of “mission” to be able to help those who become disappointed and depressed and lose hope in Jesus when a miracle doesn’t happen and to enable them to see God’s bigger plan of salvation for them.
2. Dr Koshy then mentioned the difference between “healing” and “curing”. Many people expect miracles of curing but what God wants to do is the miracle of “healing”. What this means is that, one can be “healed” within through close contact with God’s love and goodness and comfort in the Holy Spirit even when one finds oneself hamstrung by a disease or experience that makes one long for a perfect and permanent “cure”. Jesus is more often “healer” than one who “cures” diseases.

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